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Menadione Sodium Bisulfite

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Old 05-16-2017, 01:51 PM   #1
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Menadione Sodium Bisulfite

I have read that it can be harmfull to feed a diet that contains this synthetic vitamine K.
I have found that it is part of the analyses of caitec pellets and lafeber nutriberries.

can anybody tell me more about this? is it safe to use a food with this ingredient?

here are some links:
https://www.fda.gov/AnimalVeterinary.../ucm531588.htm

https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/choos...e-in-dog-food/

https://truthaboutpetfood.com/tag/me...ium-bisulfate/
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Old 05-16-2017, 10:29 PM   #2
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I've never heard of any issues with this. Do remember that when you find information you need to pay attention to species. Dogs and birds have almost nothing in common, so they should have different needs and different things that are ok for them. Maybe it isn't good for dogs, maybe it is fine, but it seems to have a long history of being safe in poultry (which is a huge pool of test subjects) and the companies using it are well regarded and do their research about things. Tumi is chowing down on a nutriberry as a midnight snack, and I am not going to be the one to stop him.
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I don't see much here that worries me. I think natural sources of all vitamins are better than synthetics.
At the end of the day, I know there are parrotlet here on the forum that have lived as old as 17 and ate pellets (and other foods like we all try to) his whole life.
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Hello! This is a new on for me. Vitamin K----isn't that potassium? Too much potassium messes up the heart on most animals. I am going to check this out! Thanks!


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Hello! This is a new on for me. Vitamin K----isn't that potassium? Too much potassium messes up the heart on most animals. I am going to check this out! Thanks!


Potassium's elemental symbol is indeed K, but vitamin K is wholly unrelated: it's a blanket term for a family of organic compounds that animals' bodies require for blood clotting, bone building, and other biological processes. Dark leafy greens are a good source of natural vitamin K.

All I know about this particular synthetic is that it may interfere with the action of a particular antioxidant, but I'm not personally worried about its usage in bird food products. To the best of my knowledge, signs of either vitamin K deficiency or toxicity aren't exactly rampant among our pets fed pelleted diets, and until that changes, my feelings will remain the same. Yes, it's best to get vitamins from natural sources wherever possible, but realistically, that's not always an option. This seems safe enough for now.
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i'm nt sure about this ingredient. i like to feed a more natural food without the possble risks that come with these kind of ingredients.
i now feed top and harrisons. about 1/5 part harrison's) i supplement with calcivet, for extra calcium and vit D. they also eat sprouted grains, seeds and pulses as well as cooked grains and pulses, a good organic dry seed mix, soms RPO and a very small part veggies.
they aren't very big veggie eaters so most part come from the TOP pellets.
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i'm nt sure about this ingredient. i like to feed a more natural food without the possble risks that come with these kind of ingredients.
i now feed top and harrisons. about 1/5 part harrison's) i supplement with calcivet, for extra calcium and vit D. they also eat sprouted grains, seeds and pulses as well as cooked grains and pulses, a good organic dry seed mix, soms RPO and a very small part veggies.
they aren't very big veggie eaters so most part come from the TOP pellets.
Your diet sounds great to me! I mean, their diet... Lol
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