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pellets vs seed, discussion among vets

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Old 09-10-2014, 07:19 AM   #61
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this morning i fed them some soaked pellets, they loved it!
could this be a solutions for the possible pellet-problems in mutation birds?

this morning i fed them some soaked pellets, they loved it!
could this be a solutions for the possible pellet-problems in mutation birds?
I don't quite understand the possible dangers....
is it that they will drink to much when fed a pellet diet, that the body can't process this?
or is that they drink t little which causes the kidney problems?
or...... help!
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:38 AM   #62
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this morning i fed them some soaked pellets, they loved it!
could this be a solutions for the possible pellet-problems in mutation birds?

this morning i fed them some soaked pellets, they loved it!
could this be a solutions for the possible pellet-problems in mutation birds?
I don't quite understand the possible dangers....
is it that they will drink to much when fed a pellet diet, that the body can't process this?
or is that they drink t little which causes the kidney problems?
or...... help!
The choice is yours to feed all pellets or a varied diet. Most of us like a varied diet and include some pellet. We can't tell you what to do that choice is yours. There is evidence that pellets in p'lets can cause kidney damage if used as the main diet. The companies state it's not the case. We all have to decide what to do based on the fact t hat a lot of testing has not been done.
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Old 09-10-2014, 11:58 AM   #63
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i think you misunderstood my post.

offcourse i will feed a varied diet with vegetables, sprouted seeds etc.
but i'm just wondering if soaked pellets can solve the possible kidney problems.
i don't have any intention to feed them more then 50% pellets!
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i think you misunderstood my post.

offcourse i will feed a varied diet with vegetables, sprouted seeds etc.
but i'm just wondering if soaked pellets can solve the possible kidney problems.
i don't have any intention to feed them more then 50% pellets!
The issue isn't well understood or studied, but one of the theories is the lack of water in the pellets, so wet pellets would negate that issue if indeed it is one. There is a chance that the issue is something else unrelated to water, or that there is no issue at all. The only downside to wet pellets is that they have to be removed like wet food, while dry pellets can sit in the cage all day. So the answer is, if the issue that might cause kidney problems indeed is lack of moisture then wet pellets would solve the problem. But whether there is an issue at all and whether it is moisture is the lengthy debate above.
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Old 09-10-2014, 02:31 PM   #65
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All I know is the oldest parrotlet I know of is Bodie who is 16 and he eats and all pellet diet of harrisons. All other plets I know of seem to die around 9-12 and most were seed eaters because that is what most people feed their birds. Not to mention that it is very well documented across species that pet birds die most commonly from: fatty liver disease (all seed diet), fatty tumors (all seed diet), nutritional deficiencies (all seed diet), and accidents. So, good enough for me to offer less seed and more pellets. Fresh food has a high water content and cannot meet all nutrional needs.
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at first i had my doubts about feeding pellets, especially because i have mutations, but i really liked the idea of feeding a diet wich i know it contains everything they need.
i discussed this with my vet, she told me that in the past there was a lori food that contained to much minerals, wich caused kidney problems in birds. these days the pellets are totally fine to feed.
i feed them harrison high potency super fine, because of the high vitamins the vet recommended to feed the pellets as 50% of the daily diet, the other 50% can be made up from fresh foods, sprouted seeds or some dry seeds.

i also feed Beaphar care+ pellets.
these pellets are lower in their vitamins and fat. she recommended to feed this pellets as 80% of the daily diet.
i mix these pellets in equal amounts, this way they get best of both and don't become bored. when they are molting i raise the amount of harisson pellets.

they now get a diet of 60% pellets and 40% fresh vegetables, some fruit, sprouted seeds and sometimes some dry seeds
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